When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Type GroundFlying. Ubers is the most inclusive of Smogon's tiers, aiming to allow the use of as many Pokemon as competitively possible. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . Absolutely no flaming, personal attacks, or general idiocy will be tolerated. Web. Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Privacy Policy. 84. level 2. Being OU by usage alone does not guarantee a ranking. You said in your post that manaphy couldn't be oppressive because it didn't have insane usage, which isn't true at all. 84. level 2. S Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Reply. Cookie Notice The player base was on edge when Blaziken, along with many other threats previously banned to Ubers, finally returned to the scene thanks to. I am still undecided if we should move Metagross yet, feel free to discuss it as well. Make your posts based off of experience and research, not off of emotion. The Champ is basically a free space for the team in a lot of fights, and can use pretty much any held item well. 1415 Gliscor. Cookie Notice I've used the line twice, once on Diamond (I went through two Sinnoh test runs on Diamond and Pearl, big mistake) and once on Platinum, and it died in the mid-game on both occasions. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. RULES. And that was with a Jolly nature, which is a terrible nature for a Lickilicky to have. i'm really not sure about the damage, If it misses then sun doesn't matter so it is not included in a calc. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Part of this is under moderator discretion and please know that posting in this thread is a privilege, not a right. A TIER. Even a 0IV Rapidash can meet this with some dedicated training, and a rapidash with at least 19IV speed can get it by just dumping 10 or fewer Carbos on. Web. Post intelligently. TM11 Sunny Day--101 5--The user intensifies the sun for five turns, powering up Fire-type moves. And interesting. Remember you will likely be training to level 60 or so. If you are nominating a Pokemon to be ranked (meaning it was previously unranked), then you need to provide replays of it being used in the metagame and you also should go out of your way to be as thorough as possible in explaining why it has a niche in the metagame. I'm not 100% sure about Cresselia being splashable on as many teams as Entei or Mew, but it is a very strong defensive presence in the tier, and it deserves to at least be up there. Fight me. JavaScript is disabled. There needs to be more substance than just this. If you have any further questions about this, please start a conversation with me on here or discord instead of posting it in this thread. Welcome to the BDSP OU Viability Ranking thread. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!". Type GroundFlying. Web. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. I've been wanting to write up this post since like Friday but I've been going out everyday and coming home at midnight. Web. Welcome to the Pokmon Platinum Nuzlocke Viability Rankings thread! Just look at deoxys-defense in gen 5. JavaScript is disabled. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will be deleted and infracted if it is a repeat issue. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. Anyway, thx for answering. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Leftovers. Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. Not too mention, it helps the Gliscor matchup even more, considering now Gliscor needs to already be poisoned lest it switch in on Knock/Wilo and be crippled beyond useless. Landorus-T can also be used on hyper offense teams with dual screens support from Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Regieleki. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. With neutral nature, you need 44 points past base speeds at this level to outrun Zam. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. I used hammer arm against a bulky variant of rotom-heat cause as you mentioned we need a set with good coverage. But I'll take S- if need be as Starmie adds so much utility to every single team it's apart of that it should be a mainstay on every team. 252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Mandibuzz: 109-129 (50.2 - 59.4%) -- 77% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, 252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Rotom-Heat: 90-107 (57.3 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. Bisharp can easily put pressure on defog users and boost with Swords Dance to +4 the next turn, it can be extremely powerful if this is pulled off which usually resorts in Defog to be used more sparingly. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Expand on your opinion with actual analysis showing understanding of the metagame and perhaps bringing a unique perspective to the conversation. Stay tuned Formats NU UU RU BDSP OU Moves Agility Psychic Power Accuracy PP 30 Raises the user&x27;s Speed by 2. xXBlu3BreathXx However, after several months of its continued dominance, Latios was suspected once again. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. Halves damage taken from a supereffective Fighting-type attack. As a physical wall it doesnt offer anything more than the existing ones and it struggles to switch into the best wallbreakers. In the UU viability rankings we base our rankings on how viable certain Pokmon in UU are. -Lanturn offers a rotom check and being annoying in general.. but that doesnt justify A+.. it still can be exploited and doesnt wall a bunch of special defensive threats that exist in the tier. It was a pretty major threat back then. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. Anyway, I don't have any plans today and I've still been playing UU, seeing how BDSPPL is going for UU and I really think this VR needs some updating when PL is done. Rock Slide Stone Edge. Smogon-gen-8- ou - teams . 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO, Can you calc with sun? It is one of the best revenge killers in the meta, strong stabs that make it a good band user too and its ability while not reckless is still useful.it is however weak to rocks and struggles to switch into stuff. Yes, it can run plenty of sets, yes it can tank a lot of stuff. We touched on usage not being the sole reason behind viability of anything before, but this is very true here as a lot of things accumulate ladder usage despite not being the best option. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1469890733, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1470014822, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1470072474-ekf1w82zojqvimgeiic0bdnv2e01vibpw, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1500736983-lgjchenu667k28s9ebchlw5h3j3ipt4pw, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1500820675-u9ho3nrcd3h46u6yzvfpfb8ukjse8cgpw, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspou-1500829804. Now those are not great direct switch ins on heracross, however they all work well to revenge kill it, or at the very least make it switch out, something heracross does not like doing, even more so if there are hazards on the field. It's consistent, but not exactly broken, unlike the others in S. I had one with Guts, and it served me pretty well during my entire run, with very few unfavorable matchups (Fantina and Lucian). Smogon University SmogonU Zero to hero just like that Palafin is a real glow up story of a little dolphin that only wanted to become a 650 BST beast of Pokmon and destroy any and all opposition You can check out more discussion in our Uncharted Territory forum smogon.comforumsforums 11 27 493 Show this thread. Web. quot;>. Web. Sign up for a new account in our community. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!". I would like to nominate Starmie to S-/S Rank. Moves, EVs, and more for pokemon like Scizor, Clefable and Garchomp. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scrafty: 286-337 (105.5 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO big lots electric fireplaces. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. This favoratism towards balance has all but left archetypes like BO in the dust, but there are actually a few Pokemon that can be of great assistance when it comes to breaking these cores and even their offensive pivots like Flygon (<3). -heracross and scrafty right now are in their best.. crobat is dropping because of rotom and people tend to forget how powerful these two are and many teams have no fighting resistances for 2 pokemons that were already hard to wall. Also I don't know which pokemons you consider top 15 but here is a very interesting calc i found on one of the top UU threats. I see a lot of people asking venomoth to be an A tier mon.. venomoth is weak to rock,fire,psychic,flying.. weak to hazards and it cant even switch into its resistances.. i ask you to calc how much damage it takes from a medicham high jump kick or a close combat from heracross. If it doesn't beat the most common mons with ease and without relying on massively outplaying the opponent, how is this S? Web. On 5/23/2020 at 7:44 AM, DracoMemes said: On 5/25/2020 at 3:32 PM, DracoMemes said: 0- SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 240-288 (131.8 - 158.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO, 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery, ///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. It's easy! However with Rotom-Heat usage being high it is hard to justify using Typhlosion. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. For more information, please see our i've never used one, mind, and if i have, it's always been as an hm mule lol. 84. level 2. Don&x27;t think UU has anything that can wall it. Fight me. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Arceus-Fighting is incredibly weak to common Psychic types and its STAB is widely resisted, especially by Lugia. You can get Abra earlier, it's literally stronger and faster, you can get Abra through a super early trade for machop (worth it, after roarke at least) which gets it a +Spa Nature and makes it level boost faster (yeah yeah it's quiet so minus speed, growing up fast imo compensates for this). Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. Web. BDSP OU SS Smogon Strategy Pokedex Composition Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl (BDSP) OU is an Unofficial Metagame based on the Diamond and Pearl remakes and features all of the unique Pokmon in the game. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. Single use. Oh also, reminder to not assume Home will allow transfers into BDSP- all official statements about Home connectivity thus far have only mentioned transferring from BDSP to Home. BDSP OU Ranking Tier List S Rank: S Rank Weavile S- Rank Gliscor Heatran Rotom-Wash Scizor A Rank: A+ Rank Alakazam Clefable Garchomp Latias Starmie A Rank Azumarill Breloom Crawdaunt Infernape Lucario A- Rank Azelf Blissey Celebi Dragonite Feraligatr Mamoswine Nidoking Skarmory Suicune Tangrowth Togekiss B Rank: B+ Rank Jirachi Magnezone Mew A TIER. Regarding the fighting resist argument, the top tier fighting mons have a way to one shot it so I don't think its great at switching into them. Its just that it doesn't strike me as a S pokemon(neither does metagross or other uu) Its not really versatile, has a fewcounters/checks, suffers 4 move slot syndrome, and its weak to rocks. Chople Berry. Empoleon can successfully run many different sets, physical special, rocker,defogger. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Web. A viability thread has as purpose to put Pokmon into 'ranks', by lack of a better term. Maybe A- can be more representative. With 125. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. company paid cdl training with sign on bonus. Moxie needs scrafty to have a kill beforehand, which most often than not won't have for free. Welcome to the BDSP UU Viability Ranking thread. However, after several months of its continued dominance, Latios was suspected once again. The world is ending. A- to B+ is a small difference and i guess it has to do with how people see those 2 pokemons. The premier competitive Pokmon community. Its base 105 with EVs and training for the champion vs base 120 with neutral nature and no EVs available. -Staraptor im still undecided to be completely honest. National Dex is a unique format that strives to make Galar mechanics work with every single Pokmon, including those that have been cut from the Pokdex. It resides in the C+ tier in OU's Viability rankings. As a council, we. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Web. The world is ending. I don&x27;t see Mence lasting in UU at all. Generally any pokemon is better if you EV train, gets a great nature and you go through the additional tedium of grinding to level 60+. BDSP Technical Machine Attacks; TM Attack Name Type Cat. An S mon doesn't possess a 4mss metagross possess, and a S mon shouldn't lose against all offensive pokemon that feature in top 15 besides Crobat. I believe Sableye and Keckleon both deserve rankings, judging off their competition rankings here, I'd say Sable is at B+ or B and Keck is at B or B-. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon. CrobatHeracross-> AMamoswineScrafty-> A/A-, Smeargle 1- Coba berry scrafty can'tset up on crobat, and for some reason I didn't mention crobat as a mon that comes in on an already +1 scrafty. Web. 1 2 Home Forums Competitive Play Smogon Metagames BDSP Metagames Metagame BDSP UU (Raikou banned Post 99) Eve Dec 1, 2021 Prev 1 2 3 4 Toy Time King Feb 22, 2022 76. de. 1 2 Home Forums Competitive Play Smogon Metagames BDSP Metagames Metagame BDSP UU (Raikou banned Post 99) Eve Dec 1, 2021 Prev 1 2 3 4 Toy Time King Feb 22, 2022 76. About JTMF; Frequently Given Answers; Cozy Camper Trailers; Sponsors & Friends. Not to mention its poor speed, pretty much every scarf mon outspeed it at +1. Would make an argument about Swellow being ranked as a Guts user considering Ursaring is ranked probably because of Quick Feet right?, but thats just my biases showing. Both Alakazam and Lucario also have other counters that are more viable team options. Web. and our competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. Speaking of Metagross. Reply. The moderators of this forum are Quite Quiet, Amaranth, august, Booty, Finchinator, Heroic Troller, Merritt, Star. The rankings will be based on how well a Pokemonperforms its role(s) in the metagame;these roles cover how well it performs in the offensive, defensive and supportive characteristics. Those being jolly arcanine/crobat/alakazam/staraptor/typhlosion/timid yanmega/siglyph/timid rotom heat, I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but you get the point. Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons which helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. Earthquake. This score is an overall performance number from 0 to 100, where 100 is the best Pokemon in that league and category. The downside to that is if the opponent switches in a faster pokemon, you have to either sack or switch out. I could get behind Mandibuzz but the other two are too situational to be A rank imo. BDSP OU uses standard Smogon-wide Clauses. Web. Both mandi forretress and bronzong are able to stop an already +1 dragon dance Scrafty. Web. It by all rights should be OU, but with the centralized nature of the tier atm, you don&x27;t eee too much ezperimentation (thanks Latios). Anyway. Pokemon Scarlet Violet Pokemon team builder for Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl OU. S TIER The Best Pokemon to use in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. -Bisharp and empoleon. 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, With that being said, you can still outstall it with jelli/vaporeon, Flame orb set- This set, is like any other heracross, if brought in correctly will force a switch, but you get the added bonus of potentially getting a swords dance off. Web. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Again, please keep discussion civil. Mime) being ill-suited alternatives. Hi, i would like to nominate Onix to D tier. Alright so I've looked through your comments and would like opinions on these potential changes: AddingExeggutor and Victreebel to B-rank. It fares pretty well against major threats (ie, Mars/Jupiter, Cyrus, Volkner), remaining extremely consistent and easy to train throughout the game. Also, not to be picky, but yall misspelled Gyarados. I find it very interesting that you included Ambipom and Arcanine (both mons agreed to not be super great) but you left off Uxie (implying it's unviable). That speed stat can make the difference between losing 1 Pokmon and losing 6. If you have any suggestions for Pokemon not on the viabilitylist feel free to express your opinionbut please provide an explanation as to why you believe it fits in the UU metagame. Def stats. competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. BDSP UU is home to Pokemon that don't recieve consistent enough usage to be considered OverUsed. I think those reasons justify A- for both. I'm glad to see Lickilicky in A too, as it doesn't tend to get the respect that it deserves. What Rapidash CAN do is attack Garchomp before it can move, which is very important when the Pokmon in question is infamous for being a butcher. There are just many teams for which another Pokemon that can fulfill its primary roles in a way that better matches the team. It also blocks set up attempts, cripples physical attackers with Willo Wisp. . It was already deemed too strong once, prompting the first suspect test in BDSP OU that eventually resulted in a close No Ban vote. . Single use. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. NU UU RU BDSP OU Offensive Rapid Spin Defensive Rapid Spin These are sample sets while we work on setting up analyses for the BDSP OU metagame. ago. That fat blob was the MVP of my Platinum run, being the sole survivor of a mid-game disaster that killed the rest of my team and remaining a key player throughout. I disagree, yes it's not the end all be all pokemon and I certainly don't think it deserves to be B/B+ rank like the guy above me. Scrafty is nowhere close to be an A+, thing is B+ at very best. Web. 1415 Gliscor. That has access to priority taunt allowing it to block every defog user in the game (except Murkrow but like thats Murkrow). BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Krookodile: 430-507 (129.9 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO I agree with what you say, but it's not S. Even in Umbra's last post, he brought a banded mon that has severe prediction issues and that barely beats one of the "Offensive" stuff I mentioned. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. S-rank is, for me, an exclusive club for game-breakers, and the Starly line doesn't do enough to fall into that category beyond being an instant win button v Gardenia and one of the few early-game 'mons in Sinnoh that can contribute to your team throughout the whole game provided they stay alive (which the Starly line has a tough time doing pretty much from when you hit the mid-game). Now I'm not saying that it's the best Pokmon in the tier. No Sceptile already had legitimate success on it's own before the Heracross ban that I thought it was kinda silly that we didn't rank it before. VR Spain is hosting the Victory Road Circuit featuring Pokmon Brilliant Diamond and Pokmon Shining Pearl, consisting in four online qualifiers, open to everyone, and the Grand Finals, to which only players residing in Spain can qualify. However, it still puts in some work against a lot of walls, nearly always forcing a sack or a switch. And under no circumstances should any of them be facing off against Garchomp, even with, as you say, a 70BP Hidden Power Ice (good luck getting that, too!). like tran couldn't care less about item it can actually run anything other than lefties, like pherb or charcoal and you're getting roasted, for example, if you knock them, you don't prevent any sort of passive action from them (rocks, twave, heal); if you taunt, you're getting magmastormed or moonblasted in the face and either way it's a good trade depending on the situation, im still not sure what you're gonna do when you're done knocking items but w/e arguably something like scizor gets momentum better, and honestly most of the time you can even get away with a burned scizor if all it needs to do is to grab momentum, we literally have a shedstall in the samples that also is a testimony of how Shedinja beats common Pokmon like Latios, Scizor, Breloom, Azumarill, Manaphy and the list can go on and on and I already said more than what Sableye currently *CHECKS*, because Sableye can't enter on ANYTHING. If you try to compare Metagross's utility in UU with Garchomp's in OU or Mienfoo in LC you will realize Metagross falls way behind those two. It also has Knock off which is decently rare on stall and helps the entire team a ton. Outrage Dragon Claw. Venomoth is prone to priority and needing chip to sweep. I'm not saying I entirely disagree but Rotom(-W) being the best Electric has less to do with it being so strong and more that it's the only Electric that didn't get significantly nerfed from its gen 4 counterpart. and our 1415 Gliscor. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. You'll get warned initially if it is not something overly malicious, but harsher punishments can and will come with repeated behavior or severe offenses. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . You must log in or register to reply here. If you do not know what a viability thread entails read further. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Web. In the case of the latter, Piplup and Prinplup are both pretty horrid. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. I personally believe it's the 2nd best mon in the entire tier after Scizor. Web. This means a Pokemon will be in a higher rank depending on how well it performs its role(s) and a Pokemon can fit into the same rank as something that fills a different role. Gyarados, Machamp, Staraptor and Empoleon I agree with. S TIER The Best Pokemon to use in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. Scarf-It suffers from the same thing every scarf pokemon does, and that is if you don't predict well, it can get hardwalled. -Metagross excells in every role its designed to fullfill on a team.. has a very wide moveset and it can run successfully a big variety of sets which all are viable and great. Was Heracross/Mence ban that beneficial to Sceptiles rise all the way to B? In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokmon (this implies that the Pokmon is obtainable before the player has defeated the Elite Four and Champion) into tiers. Web. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Technician is an awesome ability that boosts one of its best STAB moves, Bullet Punch. Web. Privacy Policy. And be a good annoyer with Wisp + Knock off. Again thanks for the constructive criticism, the opinions of everyone is greatly appreciated. 52% of total weighted usage in the tier are designated OU. 2- I'm not saying metagross is bad. -Alakazam while I personally love the mon and it has great speed and much power it struggles to wallbreak the bulkiest special defense wall, its very easily to be trapped and killed by the most common pursuiter(scarf krook), it struggles even again mandibuzz unless you hit a focus blast coming in and another after that.. that involves a lot of risk.. also uu has a lot of priority.. A LOT.. and alakazam can be oneshotted by many of those priority moves.. i think the B- tier is very representative on where it stands.. thanks for the feedback though and everyone's opinions are appreciated. Get the latest news, discuss strategies and come hang out with us 36,700 members. 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This list will be updated more frequently on this discord server, please join in the discussion as well: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. Every Electric lost Hidden Power and Zapdos got straight up gutted. You're right that they can't switch in, but it doesn't beat them 1v1 without significant prior damage and/or good prediction, even on a free switch. Bisharp is a great anti-offense pokemon which exploits the best wall in UU(mandibuzz) and most other walls struggle to stop it aswell. A bulky set sounds like it would easily exacerbate these matchups and would look to be outclassed by many Defog users and even Donphan. It's great, sure, but I don't see it to be better than Blastoise, Mew, or Snorlax to where it deserves its own tier. 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